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Infiniti2000
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(11/8/02 10:38:09 pm)
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Deity Worship in the ToAC
In a thread on D&D Miscellaneous, I did not feel it was a good idea to explain my comment to the player. I will do so here, not only to make my self feel better :) , but also for others to discuss.

If a cleric moves into the ToAC, not to plunder it but to take over, I would think that Tharizdun would be able to corrupt that cleric the same way he did Hedrack, Lareth, and other clerics of Iuz, Lolth, and Zuggtmoy. Lord Quick needs to be careful or his DM may institute some insanity points! :evil

Of course, maybe it shouldn't be easy, but no one else has succeeded in fighting off Big T's influence.

Thrommel
The DM
(11/8/02 10:45:52 pm)
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{...no one else has succeeded in fighting off Big T's influence.}

Actually, Varachan has.

I think Lord Quick's approach is rather ingenious. I think Hedrack would be expecting to see some sacrifices and evil deeds (as well as a fair amount of tribute) as a demonstration of devotion and loyalty.

But it's a very interesting way of securing a base of operations as well as being able to explore the various factions in the CRM and see if you can't pit them against each other before you have to directly assault them.

Imagine all the various messengers lining up to try to strike an allegiance with the new head of the Fire Temple -- while at the same time assessing the new Temple's strengths and points of attack.

Could be some high intrigue.

-Thrommel, who also expects to see some sacrifices and evil deeds as a demonstration of devotion and loyalty.

Infiniti2000
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(11/9/02 11:38:00 am)
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Re: Deity Worship in the ToAC
I was referring to clerics of another deity (not Big T/EEE) who attempt to set up shop in Big T's area, such as Iuz, Lolth, and Zuggtmoy all did. Hedrack got converted to Big T, Lareth got converted to EEE, etc. Varachan always worshipped Big T, he did not change deities. You might say he escaped the influences of Big T, but probably just because he longer enjoyed the idea of the fruits of nihilism.

I would think that if someone set up a temple and worshipped another deity within a temple already dedicated to Big T, Big T would corrupt the worshipper (perhaps slowly) until that someone started worshipping him. The previous deity would likely not even know about it. I suppose you could spend a lot of time coming up with rules to this effect. Anyway, I just don't think the imposing cleric would get away with it, unscathed.

Don't get me wrong. I really enjoy the idea of influencing the ToAC from within that Lord Quick and his group came up with. I think it would be a blast to play and/or DM. It's even possible to be totally successful, that you could defeat the entire ToAC before you get corrupted. It's also kind of a neat idea that if you do not do it quickly enough, by the time you defeat the fanes, you become the high priest of Big T and have to then rebuild the ToAC and the fanes, etc.

What do you think?

Infiniti2000, who wonders what Thrommel thinks of getting killed over and over again in all the different multiverses of the world... ;)

Thrommel
The DM
(11/10/02 5:31:26 pm)
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I had a similar notion a while back while contemplating an RttToEE/Banewarrens crossoever.

(I'll keep this post spoiler-free however.)

What if Tharizdun has the unique ability to usurp the divine power that worshippers provide to their deity? In effect, Big T can 'steal' the power of mortals' prayers like some sort of divine power leech. And neither the worshipper nor the deity are aware of it.

This would be a terrific reason why ALL the gods joined forces to imprison him, and it would explain why Tharizdun is so powerful, yet mysterious.

It also clearly reconciles the fact that he was able to exploit and fool so many other faiths in the original ToEE (ie Lolth, Iuz, the EEE, Zuggtmoy).

In order for it to work, I think there'd have to be a doomdreamer present among the ranks of worshippers if not in a position of power within the clergy. Or, alternately, the temple would be secretly re-dedicated to Tharizdun via some bizarre ritual.

It's a fascinating idea that could be a real springboard for extending the campaign.

-Thrommel, who endures getting killed in innumerable multiverses only because in a very precious few he is actually redeemed and reunited with his lost bride. *cue sappy music*

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