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Infiniti2000
Pie
(11/13/02 2:58:22 pm)
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ezSupporter
Filling up the Stalagos
Given all the strife in the CRM between the warring temples, and even in the Outer Fane, I'd have to think that the Stalagos would be littered with bodies. I imagine a scene where the heroes are walking across one of the bridges and see the various floating, bloated bodies in the relatively calm water, not all of them being humanoid.

Does this seem reasonable? Or, did you create a "cleanup service" in your campaign? Perhaps the Spider Eaters pick up them and either eat them or deposit them in the troll camp. More likely, there would be a number of large creatures in the water that consume the bodies (perhaps a few huge pseudonatural barracudas). This may, of course, present problems to the water temple, which has an "open door" to the Stalagos. OTOH, it might provide them with a valuable ally.

Any other ideas?

morbiczer
Pie
(11/13/02 3:04:29 pm)
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Re: Filling up the Stalagos
I's say that the lake is full with fish and even some monsters so that they would eat all bodies that get in to the water.

benhamtroll
Pie
(11/13/02 3:29:18 pm)
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Re: Filling up the Stalagos
Maybe it could just have a charnel house reek.

"Just because it's weird doesn't make it art."

Thrommel
The DM
(11/13/02 4:03:29 pm)
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Re: Filling up the Stalagos
You know, this does bring up a point.

Is the Stalagos a little boring? Sure, it's cold and immeasurably deep, but very few pc's are going to get in and swim around. (If they do, it probably they aren't going to try and find out how deep it is.)

In my campaign, instead of the relatively calm lake, I had the Stalagos bubbling with steamy purple vapor. This created a magical fog that encircled the Fane. If you didn't have a Greater Key with you (or be blessed), writhing tentacles would spiral down out of the fog and attack.

So not only did the party NOT know what was at the other end of the fog, but they also had even MORE reason to complete the key quest.

I just think the Stalagos is one of those areas that's been left open for further DM embellishment. Has anybody done anything with it??

-Thrommel, who completes the key quest and proclaims "There is no Thrommel, only Zuul!"

Ripper
Pie
(11/13/02 11:32:13 pm)
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Ghostbusters?
Thrommel...

I am the Keymaster, Are you the Gate Keeper?

Siobharek 
Orc
(11/14/02 1:11:23 am)
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Re: Ghostbusters?
Oh, shucks, that was a nice idea. And my PCs have been on the waters several times so I can't change the water into bubbling purplish fluid. :(

Darn, so many ideas and only one campaign to use them in...

Siobharek
...it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Killiak
Pie
(11/14/02 2:01:11 am)
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Re: Ghostbusters?
Ofcourse ya can Siobharek.
When they go for a supply run and are coming back from it or are running through the tunnels;
Have a deep rumbling make its wau through the earth and make it increasingly louder and louder, ending with a bang

If they enounter some EEE or T clerics, have those mumble "So close, so close"
and when they come to the water, its a deep dark purple. with thick mists and stuff all around. Let them make a spot check DC 20/25 to catch a glimpse of something tentacle like in the deep.
Scare them shitless, for the coming of T is at hand! :evil

Siobharek 
Orc
(11/14/02 2:05:34 am)
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Re: Ghostbusters?
Hey, thanks! I could do that! It'll even make it easier for me to speed them up towards the Outer Fane - they're somewhat higher level than required by the module, so if I could get them in now (they've taken out the Earth temple, Vranthis, W. Entrance) and are now in a fight with the Temple of Fire after being hired by the Water Temple), it'd be sweet and I wouldn't have to boost the Fanes either :)

Siobharek
...it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Killiak
Pie
(11/14/02 5:50:10 am)
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Re: Ghostbusters?
Hivemind vs. Players
Score: 1-0

Infiniti2000
Pie
(11/14/02 7:33:19 am)
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ezSupporter
Purple Mist & Earth Bridge
Siobharek, you could also "change" the Stalagos after a key event, say when either the fourth temple altar is destroyed, when the doors to the Inner Fane are destroyed, or some other similar event in the Outer Fane. The PC's hear a great rumble, and the sound of what seems a tidal wave, but underground. They, of course will run outside to look at the Stalagos, and you can explain the changes then. Indeed, that should put skid marks in their loincloths.

On the purplish mist, this could be very dangerous, so use it carefully. It would encourage the PC's to fly up...into some lightning bolts. It also has the side effect of hiding the PC's from the towers, which I'm sure the Inner Fane doesn't want. I think if the mist just approaches the bottom of the bridges, conveniently covering any tentacle attack from below, that would be good.

Earth bridge - I don't remember who mentioned it first - but I really like the idea of completely enclosing the earth bridge in stone. Moreover, it should be very thick, so as to allow earth elementals, etc. to move along it unseen and be able to attack creatures in the middle of the bridge. Do you think the elder earth elemental (EEE, coincidence?) would leave his post to follow PC's a little bit? He would know they are coming, though.

Abelard
Orc
(11/14/02 11:30:57 am)
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Reminder
Purple mists and tentacles aside, I can think of at least two creatures that are stated to hunt in the Stalagos: the hydra and Vranthis. That could explain lack of bodies floating around.

(I have always kind of wondered why those two don't come into conflict, though - perhaps the Stalagos is deep enough for the both of them, I suppose.)

benhamtroll
Pie
(11/14/02 11:41:08 am)
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Re: Reminder
I was always of the impression that the second came from the depths of the Stalagos.

"Just because it's weird doesn't make it art."

Blackthorne
Pie
(11/14/02 11:49:06 am)
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Re: Reminder
Nah, he came from the Web Enhancement.

Devourer Of Worlds, Destroyer Of House Rules

Infiniti2000
Pie
(11/14/02 12:06:41 pm)
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ezSupporter
Carrion Eaters
If you were a big dragon, would you eat carrion? I can't imagine Vranthis swimming through the Stalagos looking for bodies, especially with all the fresh orcs around, though I understand they require a lot of tenderizing.

Now, I'm thinking of a pseudonatural aquatic carrion crawler.

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