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Ssendam
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(11/28/02 7:19:18 am)
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Elemental Princes
I was wondering if there's any info detailed on the other elemental princes of evil, besides Imix. I remember these guys from back in the day in Fiend Folio. I know Book of Vile Darkness is out and there is also Tome of Horrors, but I have yet to pick up either. Can anyone tell me if they included the evil elemental princes in either of these products?
Or perhaps there was something done up on this site in regards to the other evil elemental princes? In RttToEE, Monte speaks of perhaps adding another one of the elemental princes in addition to Imix as an option. Was curious if maybe something was done up here in one of the forums, like the listing of their stats. 
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Azalnubizar 
Pie
(11/28/02 8:06:38 am)
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I haven't been through the whole Book of Vile Darkness, yet, but I think I would remember if there would have been one of the evil princes.
Haven't had a look at the book of horrors yet.
I think, I'd just take Imix and switch him into another element. Add some unique features...
Azal
PS: If you find out, where the official stats are, let me know
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Andorax
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(11/28/02 9:32:00 am)
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There are no official stats. The only official mention of them, outside of the BoVD, is a paragraph that lists their names at the very end of Defenders of the Faith (I think it may be the actual last paragraph).
However, there are unofficial stats posted for them over on Enworld's Creature Catalog. They may also be saved on the Yahoo RttToEE group.
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Finsteel 
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(11/29/02 4:16:59 am)
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This just occurred to my mind and as I don't have any sufficient book at hand (and I'm not sure if I find any good answer) I have to ask if there is any Good princes of the elements? After all the elements are generally Neutral. Shouldn't they have then equally powerful Good creatures as they have these Evil princes?
-F-
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madfox
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(11/29/02 4:35:33 am)
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Yes, there are also good aligned elemental princes. Their names are definitely mentioned in 2nd edition Planescape material. Which I obviously do not have at hand at work, so I cannot give them right now. I will try to remember taking a look at them in a couple of hours when I get home. There are also neutral elemental princes, but they have evolved in the elemental deities of the FR (Kossuth for fire, Akadia or something for air, Grumbar for earth and I have forgotten the water one).
The earth genesi in Thor's Hammer campaign served the good elemental prince to look into the corruption and abuse of the power of earth.
Edited by: madfox at: 11/29/02 4:36:52 am
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Siobharek 
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(11/29/02 5:14:54 am)
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The names of the good Elemental Princes can be found in Defenders of the Faith.
Siobharek
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DM Armand
Pie
(11/29/02 8:30:56 am)
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Re: Elemental Princes
Go to!!!
Re: RttToEE FAQ
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Q:
Who are the following characters: Ogremoch, Olhydra, Cryonax, Yan-C-Bin and Zuggtmoy? Where can I find their stats?
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Ogremoch, Olhydra, Cryonax, and Yan-C-Bin are the other Princes of Evil Elementals (similar to Imix). They are mentioned on p133 as well as p137.
Their respective elements are:
Edited by: DM Armand at: 11/29/02 8:33:31 am
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madfox
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(11/29/02 8:33:29 am)
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Huh? Yeah, but we were talking about the GOOD elemental princes not the evil ones 
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DM Armand
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(11/29/02 8:37:54 am)
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I was conferring to Ssendam
"I was wondering if there's any info detailed on the other elemental princes of evil, besides Imix. "
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Fillerbunny34
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(11/29/02 8:57:54 am)
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About the other Evil Princes........ I came across a "Book Of Elementals" netbook yesterday which has 3E stats for Cryonax, Orgemoch, Olhydra, and Yan-C-Bin. I don't know if it's official, pseudo-official, or what. The stats look good though and if anyone's interested I could put them up. Unless that's going to be illegal (in a copyright sense) or something. It doesn't say if the netbook is copyrighted or open-source or anything........
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Ssendam
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(11/29/02 11:47:17 am)
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Armand, I am already well aware of who the other elemental princes of evil are. They originally were conceived in Fiend Folio, a monster supplement that was released in the early 80's back in the 1st edition AD&D days.
What I am looking for are updated versions of these guys, if they do indeed exist.
Fillerbunny, that would be great if you could post their stats. I am very interested to check them out! 
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Fillerbunny34
Pie
(11/29/02 12:00:52 pm)
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D'oh...... If I had actually read the netbook properly, I would have seen that it was just a collection of creatures from the Creature Catalogue over at enworld.org
I won't both reproducing them here myself, but they are actually on this board (another example of me not paying attention....). They're listed up on the RttToEE FAQ - NOTE: THIS FORUM IS FOR DM'S ONLY thread, second post down.
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Ssendam
Pie
(11/29/02 12:53:47 pm)
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Sweet. Thanks, Filler. Wow, all this time it was right under my nose. 
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DM Armand
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(12/2/02 2:19:00 am)
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Thanx Fillerbunny, that was what I was trying to tell them
I will try to explain myself better next time, sorry!!!
I´m not used to writing in English.
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