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ptgmichael
Pie
(12/7/02 8:33:30 pm)
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Blue Dragon in the Moathouse???
My group just got to the Moathouse last night. That is where we quit playing for the eve. Now I know the book says to play out this scenerio with a blue dragon trapping the clerics and Spugnoir inside the dungeon, thus putting himself between the PCs and the Moathouse dungeon. This sounds like a suicide mission if they attack this dragon... or at least the end of the campaign. There are 4 char all lvl 3. Sounds too tough to me. Any advise or tell me how you ran your game at this point.

Trithereon
Pie
(12/7/02 9:12:15 pm)
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Re: Blue Dragon in the Moathouse???
It may be too tough, as the module was designed for four 4th level characters. This may seem like an insignificant difference, but when you consider the all the additional class-related enhancements and aquired resources that four 4th level characters have over 3rd level ... it usually adds up to more of a geometric than an arithmetic progression of power.

Still, all is not lost. Don't play Utreshimon to his full powers: don't use his hover ability, don't have him concentrate all his melee attacks on one opponent, don't have him Power Attack, don't breathe lightning on them when they appear weakened.

Utreshimon is a young, medium-sized dragon. He's overconfident and full of hubris. He may be overwhelmed by a well coordinated group ... if you dumb-down his tactics.

serleran 
Orc
(12/7/02 9:23:23 pm)
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If you wanted, you could have something ambush the party prior to the arrival of the dragon. This could cause them to retreat. On the way back, they fight and fight, and manage to advance a level.

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Orc
(12/7/02 9:46:20 pm)
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Re: Blue Dragon in the Moathouse???
I had a party of 5 3rd's, Xaod, and Chat. Chat turned out to be useless due to really bad rolls. Xaod did get a few good hits in before being vaporized.

One tactic I planned to use (and ended up using) if the combat went long was to have big U parley with the party for their lives. IMC, he did this when he was down below 20 hp and was getting a little nervous himself. He still feels he has the upper hand of course, so he gives them 'one last chance'. He gave them 30 seconds to lay down their goodies for him and leave unharmed. My group didn't use this too much to their advantage, but the break can potentially give them a few non-combat rounds to heal, regroup, plan, etc.



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Zenon
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(12/7/02 10:17:01 pm)
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If they just got there, did they meet Ol' Del along the way?

If not, I'd have him frantically waving to them from the bushes to try to warn them about the dragon. Without some spectacular luck, I don't think they make it.

If they try it anyway, you could always have some of the forces that are trapped below join into the fight (some of the gnolls), running out to try to attack U. They might think the party is their relief force from the CRM. This will put some more targets on the firld and allow you to split attacks to the NPC's, giving the PC some breathing room....

If U gets too low on hitpoints, he might flee early. Pick a number before the fight (Say 30 or so) and when he gets down to that have him split. You can always re-introduce him as the "new boss" of the Old Temple (and hopefully when the players meet him again they'll be a little higher level. Remeber, even if he flees to award the XP for overcoming the challenge.

maddman75 
Orc
(12/8/02 6:19:48 am)
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I'd have ol Del come in and start raving about a blue dragon to warn them off. Maybe try to hint them toward the old temple to fight hobgoblins. My group did this first and got to 4th level.

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Taxman66
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(12/9/02 6:46:01 am)
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You could also presume big U is still wounded, or has been wounded by a failed breakout attempt (just add some dead gnolls and a cleric or two in a pile somewhere).

That way U will be inclined to retreat faster.

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ptgmichael
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(12/9/02 8:10:11 pm)
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Re: Blue Dragon in the Moathouse???
Hey thanks guy I appreciate the help. I will let you know how it turns out. We are playing again this weekend and ill post afterwards.

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