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Cordo Crowfoot
Orc
(12/8/02 6:31:58 am)
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Huge Howler CR and XP question
The errata says the the Huge Howler has a CR of 6. That would award 2,250xp to an average 5th level party.

However isn't the official way to award experience as per the Monster Manual to multiply the experience award by the increase in hit dice? So wouldn't the Howler still be "CR 3" but rather multiply the CR 3 XP award by 2 (as the Howler hit dice are increasing from 6 to 12)?

That would mean a 5th level party would only be awarded 750 x 2 = 1500 xp.

I may increase the award anyway to reflect the difficulty of this beast, but just wanted to confirm what the "official" way to do it was before I made my final decision.

Tristan DArque
Orc
(12/8/02 7:02:18 am)
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Re: Huge Howler CR and XP question
I think that's been errataed, so that the CR goes up but the experience is as normal for the (increased) CR. The old way was to leave the CR the same and boost the XP award.

(edit: from the MM errata:

Quote:
p. 14, Replace the Challenge Rating note with:
Each 50% increase to the creature's original HD increases the CR of a monster by 1. Doubling the HD raises the CR by 2. Tripling the HD raises the CR by 4.


and if you replace the challenge rating note, you remove, I think, all reference to multiplying the XP).

Edited by: Tristan DArque at: 12/8/02 7:24:36 am
Cordo Crowfoot
Orc
(12/8/02 8:53:44 am)
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Re: Huge Howler CR and XP question
Ah, thanks Tristan!

Then in actuality the CR of the Howler is 5, just as listed in the module, and not in our errata thread.

Tristan DArque
Orc
(12/8/02 9:28:13 am)
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Re: Huge Howler CR and XP question
I think that's probably right, BTB. Ordinary (6 HD) howler = CR3, so double-HD (12 HD) howler = CR5. People certainly seem to have trouble with it though...

Andorax
Orc
(12/9/02 7:32:01 am)
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Re: Huge Howler CR and XP question
It's listed as a CR 6 in the thread on the basis of a discussion, quite a while back, where many of us concluded that bumping up the size of a creature makes a *huge* difference in it's power level, and thus, that you should +1 the CR for every size upgrade.


Still, you're right...the FAQ and Errata should be by the book, or marked as a house rule. Would one of you listkeeper types please make the appropriate correction?

"Whadda ya mean, Orcs get levels too?!?"

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