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Jayd42
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(12/23/02 12:22:52 pm)
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Imix's stats
Have a question about Imix, at the end. His stats seem to indicate he gets 6 attacks based on his BAB. Isn't the max supposed to be 4? Or do monsters not have a limit like characters do?
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 Infiniti2000
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(12/23/02 12:50:47 pm)
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ezSupporter
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Re: Imix's stats
Characters have the limit because their BAB can't get higher than 20 (non-epic-level of course). Dunno about epic-level characters. At least I couldn't find anything in the SRD against having more than 4 primary attacks. A monster can, of course, have as many secondary attacks as it has secondary weapons (such as the grell). But, this rule seems out of place since, for example, a dragon cannot bite more than once (primary attack), not matter the BAB.
However, the most telling entry in the SRD is on the Solar, where it gets 5 attacks (+5 dancing, vorpal greatsword +35/+30/+25/+20/15 melee). A quick calculation reveals it's BAB is +21, so that works out. It seems like Imix can indeed get that many attacks.
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Daeinar
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(12/23/02 1:19:48 pm)
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BAB
The Solar Entry ist wrong, actually, and it should only get 4 attacks.
Creatures using weapons can only get a maximum of four attacks - unless they use two weapons, of course.
Epic Rules and the rules from DDG are something different, but for Imix the rule is: Only 4 attacks, regardless of BAB.
Daeinar
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Infiniti2000
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(12/24/02 12:10:39 pm)
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Re: BAB
Okay, I've searched and searched and the only place I can find a rule is in the ELH that limits attacks to only 4/round. It limits it for both classed characters and advanced monsters, regardless of BAB. RttToEE and the MM were out before the ELH, so that accounts for the discrepancy. OTOH, the latest errata does not change the number of attacks that the solar gets.
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Lunus Quelnegarde
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(12/24/02 6:16:39 pm)
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Re: BAB
What about an unarmed monk level 20 who gets +15/+12/+9/+6/+3 (with one hand)... and even more with fury of blows? (though this is two handed)
I dunno about the ELH... I think I'm keeping Imix at 6 attacks. Against 7 prepared adventurers he's gonna need anything he can get.
Besides, he is supposed to be unbelievably tough... like some gimicked last boss. The real way to beat him is not to overcome him, but just take out Maliskra and run away with the orb (destroying it where he can't find you)
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