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The guy from Belgium
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(1/9/03 5:55:53 am)
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how about another use for thrommel?
ok, hedrack wants the pc's to get out of the mines and abandon their quest right?

he could send the assassins, sure... why not?

but!

he's also got thrommel...

if your pc's have a nice background detailing their family and friends, have hedrack order thrommel to kill off some of the pc's relatives/friends instead of killing the pc's with assassins...

you can then issue warnings:

first warning: one of your close friends turns up in the crm as a vampire spaws

second warning: your wife turns up as a full grown vampire (not just a spawn)

final warning: you face off against half your former town... (the last one is a bit over the top, but just to illustrate the effect)

Of course, your pc's will only get more determined to put a stop to all this, but it's great fun to play it...

will a pc actually kill his friend/loved one if there is the slightest chance of returning them to what they were (by killing the master or by returning the master = thrommel to humanity)

a lot of interesting roleplay can come forth with this idea!

Taxman66
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(1/9/03 6:33:55 am)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
Yup, a lot of interresting 'role-playing' or as I perfer to call it:

"How to demonstrate to your PCs that they should never form permanent attachment or interrests."

On a more practicle note, Thrommel is going to be one Heddy's last choices certainly not his first. Hed doesn't trust Thrommy, and for very good reasons I suggest reading the best of the board.

Taxman
"It takes an uncommon mind to think of these things, Hobbes." - Calvin

Andorax
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(1/9/03 7:30:23 am)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
Plus, it would take a LOT of convincing for Hedrack to get Thrommel to go outside the CRM. Remember, his immortality is highly dependant on his ability to reach his coffin within 2 hours of being axed. Thus, any field trips he takes are highly hazardous. Even Rastor is a danger for him.

"Whadda ya mean, Orcs get levels too?!?"

The guy from Belgium
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(1/9/03 7:36:28 am)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
no chance he could use the doom dreamer's tourbilon is there?

that would be cool: teleport thrommel somewhere and when he has finished the job, make him recall to the fanes

it's not impossible, but nearly :D

Andorax
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(1/9/03 7:43:34 am)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
And how would he "recall" to the Fanes if he gets killed? The problem isn't getting there, it's getting back. When a Vampire hits 0hp, it becomes gaseous, and the clock starts ticking. The Vampire can do naught save flee (gaseously) back to their coffin. If they're not back within 2 hours, it's all over.

I don't think a gaseous Vampire can break a Recall item.

"Whadda ya mean, Orcs get levels too?!?"

The guy from Belgium
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(1/9/03 8:02:26 am)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
true, but teleporting to a house where the wife is home alone (since the pc is in the crm), killing her (thus turning her into a vamp) is not such risky business i'd say...

but it was just a thought...

not completely worked out

thx for the input...

Infiniti2000
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(1/9/03 10:47:49 am)
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ezSupporter
Re: how about another use for thrommel?
"...but teleporting to a house where the wife is home alone..."

A vampire cannot enter a private home unless invited "by someone with the authority to do so." I agree that Thrommel would not be sent out outside the CRM and OF.

The guy from Belgium
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(1/9/03 12:48:05 pm)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
ok, that settles it...

bad idea... erased from mind :D

Taelohn
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(1/9/03 12:50:47 pm)
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Vampires entering homes.
That's an interesting point. What happens to them if they try to enter someone's house - they bounce off an invisible wall or something? And couldn't the vampire knock down the door (or even all the walls) to get to someone hiding from him in a home? Eh, or he could just burn it down and wait for them to run out...

TrinityDM
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(1/9/03 6:27:37 pm)
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Re: how about another use for thrommel?
Andorax said:
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When a Vampire hits 0hp, it becomes gaseous, and the clock starts ticking. The Vampire can do naught save flee (gaseously) back to their coffin.

...and they can still be attacked by anyone who can beat DR 20/+1 (and any other protections of the Gaseous Form spell). Fleeing Vampires are relatively weak if there are still opponents who can get to them.

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