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lawithro
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(1/13/03 3:46:51 pm)
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Tarren the Druid: What's he doing there?
Does anyone have any good ideas of what to do with Terran (the NE druid in area 103)? He seems kinda stuck in there--Destrachens on one side, Giant ants on the other. Does he just sit around, eating mushrooms all day? Obviously he knows something about the temple...is he involved with them?

Thanks,
Luke

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Zorlag
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(1/13/03 4:05:24 pm)
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Best of the Boards
Check Best of the Boards thread, there is a few ideas about him by your truly... It's near the end, use search function if you can't find it.

Z.

deafdungeonmasterRIT
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(1/13/03 5:28:08 pm)
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Hmm
pub58.ezboard.com/fokayyo...2338.topic

My idea to use Tarren is that he want to take over the earth or water temple in order to establish his plant temple.. that is my idea..

LostSoul
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(1/13/03 6:14:19 pm)
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Re: Hmm
Maybe you could consider him to be the last remaining "chosen" of Zuggtmoy. (Or Einhort, as far as Call of Cthulu goes.) He knows that his godess is somehow tied up within the Fanes, but he doesn't know exactly how or where. He'll probably want to work with the PCs to dispatch the Triad and rescue his malformed godess. He should probably tell the PCs that the Triad has captured a godess of nature or something benign like that.

SIERK
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(1/13/03 6:48:31 pm)
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Re: Hmm
IMC, Tarren was hanging around the CRM because he had a bone to pick with Hedrack. He used to work for Hedrack, but was betrayed somehow (I wasn't clever enough to come up with a good reason).

When faced with a compelling reason to join with the party (having his Bear dropped in 1 round and himself having gone to -3 hp before being healed), he did so. He stuck with the party despite a chance or two to flee because he actually did want to stick it to Hedrack.

Abelard
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(1/13/03 7:05:27 pm)
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Re: Hmm
LostSoul, I like the Zuggtmoy tie-in idea.

Another question is, what does he do with the cash if PC's buy some of his herbal concoctions? Send away for fresh spores, or what? How could he use the money?

Infiniti2000
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(1/13/03 7:13:34 pm)
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Tarren & Zuggtmoy
LostSoul, I also really like that idea and plan to use it. IMC, the party talked with an old adventurer who delved into the original Temple and banished Zuggtmoy, so they have heard the name.

Tarren can use the money to make his way around the mines and further his plans. Right now, he doesn't have enough to really accomplish his objectives. As the party continues adventuring, they'll hear more about Tarren's exploits through the CRM, possibly even seeing some temple guards or other inhabitants slain, with various bits of fungi stuffed in their mouths or open wounds (think variation on desecrate, to avoid animation or raising). For a while, they might even consider him an ally, bringing him with them into the fanes.

deafdungeonmasterRIT
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(1/13/03 9:06:31 pm)
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well
Let say that Hedrack betrays him when he did a ritual that suppose to release Zuggolomay but bound her instead in her prison, angering Tarren. Of course, Hedrack just smirk and attack him. Tarren, outmatched, become some kind of animals and flee.

(how is my grammer so far?)

Siobharek 
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(1/14/03 12:34:24 am)
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Re: well
The Zuggtmoy angle is brilliant.

DeafDM, your grammar and overall writing style has improved since you came here. That's not empty praise; that's a fact. There's a bit of a mix-up in tense in the first sentence, but that's really nitpicking. Second sentence ("Of course, Hedrack just...") smirk should have a 's' at the end - few and far between are the words in English that do not have 's' when referring to the third person singular (he/she/it). Same with "become"s" in the sentence after that.

Don't mean to sound... I dunno, all high and mighty. But you asked, and it's clear that your previous questions about writing have helped. You rule :)

Siobharek
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HeresDaryl
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(1/14/03 6:14:28 am)
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Tarren (potential)
One plan I had considered was, depending on what level my party is when they encounter him, to advance him a few levels and (if possible within the requirements) give him a level or two of Alienist (Tome & Blood). I'd have him summoning pseudonatural natures allies, and I might occupy his fungus patch with a few more unpleasant plant type monsters...In fact I was considering having a tunnel run from his fungus patch to a long but narrow ledge on the inside of the crater - that houses an unusual and very sinister flora??

As for background, I thought of him being the sole human survivor of the previous Earth Temple power structure (before it was overrun and the Troglodytes moved in)...

Any opinions on these ideas would be hugely appreciated!

Siobharek 
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(1/14/03 8:02:53 am)
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Re: Tarren (potential)
Well, according to the adventure, "The Temple once courted Tarren, but they betrayed him". What would the temple forces (I assume that it is the Temple of All-Comsumption rather than one of the elemental temples) court a druid specializing in fungi and moss for? I definitely think the zuggtmoy connection is valid. Why not give him levels of Oozemaster (Masters of the Wild) in stead?

Siobharek
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Signifying nothing.

deafdungeonmasterRIT
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(1/14/03 8:59:42 am)
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Well Thank!
Siobharek,

I appreciate your constructive criticisms! It is a pleasure to be part of this forum. It is also a great honor to get qualified assistance regarding how to run a game efficently as well as getting additional help on my grammers. This is important since I will graduate this year with B.A degree in Criminal Justice, and I am seriously considering transferring to other college for M.A either in Criminal Justice or Adminstration. I do give this forum great deal of credits for helping to shape my grammer skills. Ever since a person ask me on AIM if english is my second languages, I have come to the conclusion that any help is a big help. So thank you all for being patient with me and donating your times to help to improve my grammers. That really speak alot for your characters! :) :D

Tarren, in my opinion, is somewhat a side show character. Potentially, he can be a decent recurring character, and it will be neat to see to have Needlefolks, Veggie pymy (ms?), and mushroom men to work for him. After all, he is a NE druid, and he must have certain ambition to meet its end!

lawithro
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(1/14/03 10:32:17 am)
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Good ideas all around
I also really like the Zuggtmoy angle. I think I'll make him a somewhat sympathetic, brilliant madman:
Many years ago, the original Temple of Elemental Evil courted Terran. They knew of his fascination with fungus (indeed, he worshipped Zuggtmoy, believing her to have been corrupted by demonic forces long ago). They promised to help him cleanse the demonic taint from her, but instead they used him to build a trap for her. By the time he realized their true intentions, it was too late.
He wandered for a few years after that, finally deciding to seek revenge against his betrayers. He was able to locate the CRM. He found an empty cave, and has been living there ever since--10 years (although he has no concept of how long it's been). He's gone crazy in this time, relishing in his cannibalism. He now calls himself simply "The Host".
He lives off his fungal jungle. The cloakers are an intermediary for him, passing along corpses from the pit fights to the north. He has bred different varieties of fungus to "process" the corpses into a more palatable form. He eats brain-cheese spread over bone-bread, drinks blood-wine.
The temple forces don't know of him or his plans to overthrow them. The air temple forces simply think the cloakers are eating the corpses. If they did know of him, they'd be hard-pressed to get him out. He's learned many of the secrets of the fungal world, and has created several warriors in his lair (I'm planning on giving him a collection of abilities from the Oozemaster PrC, as well as the Plant Domain--but he'll lose most of the animal-based powers of being a druid).
He's not terribly evil--he just loves decay. He will kill weaker foes simply to fuel his plot of revenge (he needs carcasses to feed his mushrooms.)
At any rate, I want to make him a totally disgusting, friendly, and bizarre. If people want, I'll post a more crunchy writeup when I get around to it.

http://cs.unca.edu/~withrola/toee

madfox
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(1/14/03 2:20:18 pm)
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Re: Good ideas all around
Somehow I see the cancer mage as a much better prestige class then the oozemaster. Though you will need to modify the fluff slightly to make it more fungi and less vermin orientated. It is only a matter of words to change viral into fungal ;) I like what people have come up with on this list and at least I can use this one.

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