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JDragonatWork
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(4/13/03 4:04 pm)
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# of Keys and who has them?
Ok, I'm want to put a list together of all the lesser elemental keys that are floating around the CRM so I know exactly what my players may or may not come across.

Has anyone already done this?

Would anyone like a copy when I do it, if it hasn't been done already?

Also, one last stupid ?, you have to put two of the same lesser keys together to get a greater elemental key, right?

Thanks

JDragon

Infiniti2000
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(4/13/03 4:59 pm)
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ezSupporter
Re: # of Keys and who has them?
Two lesser keys = one greater key. Two greater keys = master key. There are two lesser keys per temple, pretty much the two main people for each temple (Tessimon/Firre, Fachish/Choranth, Kelashein/Nilbool, Uskathoth/Snearak), though I might them wrong.

Eltern
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(4/13/03 5:27 pm)
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There's three lesser keys of fire

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Boden Blagden
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(4/13/03 6:16 pm)
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Re: # of Keys and who has them?
There are three lesser keys of earth, I haven't seen three lesser keys of fire. Eeridik has the other lesser key of earth.

JDragonatWork
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(4/13/03 7:20 pm)
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Ok... all done
First, thanks for the quick responses.

The NPC's from the CRM that have Lesser Keys are as follows...

Air - Choranth & Fachish

Water - Kelashein & Oomkaan

Earth - Snearak, Uskathoth & Eeridik

Fire - Tessimon, Zert & Firre Orenac

I miss any?

Also I'm in the process of making some pics of the keys. They are not as described in the book, but the ones from the book sound boring. I'll be sending them to be put up on Zans site once I'm done. It should include pics of the Lesser, Greater and possibly Master Keys

This sound useful to anyone?

JDragon

ZansForCans 
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(4/13/03 7:52 pm)
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Re: Ok... all done
{This sound useful to anyone?}

Absolutely. I love adding visuals to my campaign.


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Infiniti2000
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(4/13/03 8:58 pm)
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ezSupporter
Re: Ok... all done
Definitely post the images!

It's a good thing I don't do everything from memory. :) I missed Eeridik's key cause he doesn't keep it on him!

This brings me to a nagging question. Besides making greater keys, the only purpose of the lesser keys is to open doors in the area it is tuned to. Would you also say that they bypass some of the magical wards or not? I thinking of the glyphs of warding or things like that. More importantly, do they also work in the corresponding bridge complex? If so, shouldn't Eeridik carry his with him?

Grumgarr
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(4/14/03 1:50 am)
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Usefulness of the elemental Keys
I don't think the Lesser Keys actually open any doors (but maybe they should).
ASAIR their only use is in creating a Greater Key, useful in the blessing ceremony at each temple. So their owners have to come together for blessing ceremonies.
Actually, are the Greater Keys needed to perform the ceremony - don't you just have to touch the altar and speak the correct phrase?

Having said all that, the blessing is only really for folk crossing the bridges (blessed folk can open the matching elemental door)...and not getting zapped if they fly near the lightning towers...so even the blessing isn't actually useful in the CRM itself, more of a ceremony for those sent 'to the Masters'.

Maybe the lesser keys should have some power - I like the idea of bypassing Glyphs - how about the summoned guardian creatures in the temples can sense the appropriate element's lesser keys and don't attack anyone carrying one?
Maybe the holder of a lesser key gets a bonus (+2?) on turn/rebuke elemental creatures checks? And a greater key increases this bonus? (+4?)

And please post the key images!
I knocked up an 'actual size' Obex and an EEE symbol ages ago which I've never posted (I think). I'll get them up too.

Grumgarr

Siobharek 
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(4/14/03 6:03 am)
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Re: Usefulness of the elemental Keys
I'm not sure if you're referring to the same key, but Reokallitan, a troglodyte cleric/rogue has a key of Earth. He's visiting Eeridik.

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JDragonatWork
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(4/14/03 7:00 am)
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Good call Siobharek
I just looked at it...

On Page 84 # 147 Guest Room, Reokallitan is listed with one.

And Eeridik has one in a box in his room (page 82 # 139 Eeridik's Chamber)

I'll add Reokallitan's to list, and I'm going to figure out which area each key most likly will be found in.(depending on how mobile the NPC is)

JDragon

JDragonatWork
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(4/14/03 8:00 am)
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One more Try
Ok, I think I have all of them now. I have also added the area # that the person is normally found in.

The NPC's from the CRM that have Lesser Keys are as follows...

Air :
Choranth - 75
Fachish – 73 / 75

Water :
Kelashein – 187 / 185 / 195
Oomkaan - 192

Earth:
Snearak - 225
Uskathoth - 223
Eeridik – 139 (in a box, not on him)
Reokallitan - 147

Fire:
Tessimon – 120 / 121
Zert – 116 / any fire controlled area
Firre Orenac – 119

IF anyone finds something I missed pass it on.

I'll include this info with the pics when I send them to Zan's Site. I hope to have the pics done with in the week.

JDragon

ZansForCans 
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(4/15/03 7:14 pm)
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Re: One more Try
Actually, I would think the text you have there is ripe for the FAQ sticky instead of being lost on my site. Any seconds?


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JDragonatWork
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(4/16/03 8:03 am)
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Works for me :-)
That sounds good to me, I'll also inculde it is a text file along with my pics when I send that.

JDragon

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