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JDragonatWork
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(4/18/03 12:06 pm)
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Random ? regarding Trogs
Does the ability damage from the Trog Stench SA, stack?
IE if you are with in the area of 2 trogs do you make 2 saves and take damage from both if you fail both?
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JDragon
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benhamtroll
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(4/18/03 12:10 pm)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
You only need to make one save per hour, total. If you save from one Trog, you are immune to all of them for an hour.
And it's important to note that the Trog stench is not perpetual. The description specifically states it occurs when they are "angry or afraid". So if your folks sneak up on them, there's a good chance they won't be affected.
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JDragonatWork
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(4/18/03 12:32 pm)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
How about one running for his life, and one that has just had Rage cast on him?  I hope these work for "angry or afraid".
Thanks for the info thats what I needed.
JDragon
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Cordo Crowfoot
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(4/18/03 8:02 pm)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Just curious, what is the source of that ruling?
"They were immediately and absolutely recognizable as adventurers. They were hardy and dangerous, lawless, stripped of allegiance or morality, living off their wits, stealing and killing, hiring themselves out to whoever and whatever came... They were scum who died violent deaths, hanging on to a certain cachet among the impressionable through their undeniable bravery and their occasionally impressive exploits" China Mieville, Perdido Street Station |
benhamtroll
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(4/18/03 8:57 pm)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
I based it a bit off of the description and a bit off of common sense. When you consider the trog is not a REALLY high CR, and if you fail your save you are out of it for 10 rounds, it didn't seem like EVERY trog in a group would require a seperate save. Everyone needs to make that save, of course, but there is no difference between the stench, so why should you have to save for every one?
Now, if you had had to save EVERY round, it might be a different story. But you don't.
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Cordo Crowfoot
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(4/19/03 12:54 am)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Yeah ok. I realize the implications if it stacks, but have never seen anything official saying it doesn't and was wondering if you had seen something.
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Blackthorne
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(4/19/03 4:40 am)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Check out the MM Errata, folks. Should clear some things up.
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 Infiniti2000
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(4/19/03 7:16 am)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Thanks, Blackthorne! Quoted for your convenience:Quote:
Once character has succumbed to a particular troglodyte.s stench ability, or made a successful saving throw against it, the character cannot be by the same troglodyte.s stench ability for 24 hours.
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Blackthorne
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(4/19/03 7:27 am)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Yup. And since the errata´ed Trog stench deals a -2 morale penalty to rolls, it also doesn´t stack with itself.
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Thrommel
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(4/19/03 7:34 am)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Here's the relevant errata section:
Stench (Ex): When a troglodyte is angry or frightened, it secretes an oily, musklike chemical that nearly every form of animal life finds offensive. All creatures (except troglodytes) within 30 feet of the troglodyte (except other troglodytes) must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 13) or suffer a -2 morale penalty on attack rolls, weapon damage rolls, checks, and saving throws. The affect lasts 10 rounds. Once character has succumbed to a particular troglodyte's stench ability, or made a successful saving throw against it, the character cannot be affected by the same troglodyte's stench ability for 24 hours.
One thing to note is that I don't believe morale penalties stack. So sure, multiple saves could be involved, but the only potential effect would be to increase the duration.
-Thrommel, who is reminded that he needs to go shower.
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benhamtroll
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(4/19/03 10:09 am)
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Re: Random ? regarding Trogs
Thanks for mentioning the errata. We've been having people run from the stench and puke for 10 rounds. This makes it MUCH less deadly. . .
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JDragonatWork
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(4/21/03 10:04 am)
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Thanks for all the info
Ok, Thanks guys, that helps.
Not a tuff save but you gotta make it against every Trog the yencounter. 
JDragon
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