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Jesse Lowe
Human
(6/22/03 4:32 am)
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What about all the bodies?
After my crew went through the western bridge complex like a tornado on speed, they left a considerable amount of corpses. They eventually dealt with them by tossing them into the lake (where many of them were eaten by the hydra). If they hadn't, I would've had to inflict a great many vermin on them. And possibly diseases.

How have you dealt with all the bodies character parties leave behind in your campaigns?

Edited by: Jesse Lowe at: 6/22/03 4:35 am
Caedrel
Faen
(6/22/03 4:47 am)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
Especially when they make it a point to strip them of all valuables, including any weapons or armour they were carrying... :)

Cordo Crowfoot
Faen
(6/22/03 8:19 pm)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
I think you are on the right track, unlike CRPGs in which the bodies conveniently fade away, this is an issue the players need to face.

My players did a similar thing and threw many of the corpses from the fire bridge complex into the lake. They also have stacked corpses like cordwood in back rooms, and have burned them on occasion as well.

"They were immediately and absolutely recognizable as adventurers. They were hardy and dangerous, lawless, stripped of allegiance or morality, living off their wits, stealing and killing, hiring themselves out to whoever and whatever came... They were scum who died violent deaths, hanging on to a certain cachet among the impressionable through their undeniable bravery and their occasionally impressive exploits" China Mieville, Perdido Street Station

Tharizdun
Human
(6/23/03 1:15 am)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
My fiendishness convinced me that all sorts of underdark critters would come up to feast on the remains of the slain.
I designed a [b]fiendish collossal monstrous spider[/b] that came up from the underdark to eat the scavengers that were attracted to the smelly bodies. Image the players' surprise when they came back from their brief (3 weeks) expedition to Verbobonc... :-)


Also, since some of the priests (notably the wraith in the air temple) turned into undead, I had one or two priests turn into ghosts and summon more evil elementals while possessing the PCs. :evil :D

Trithereon
Verrik
(6/23/03 2:03 am)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
I agree with Tharizdun (!?!?!)

I just assumed that "wandering monsters" come up from the underdark and scavange what my adventurers leave behind.

I also had some corpses that were left in proximity to altars of elemental evil rise as undead, just for fun.

The bodies that my PCs gathered and into empty barracks and then shut away from scavengers continue to rot beneath a huge bed of fungus. The stench nearly unbearable (Fort DC 15, or retch). It is up to the DM if he then wants such a morbid pile of rotting corpses to rise as some sort of HUGE undead made up of all the bodies. The bigger the pile left behind and locked away then the bigger the undead monster that eventual rampages through the CRM. The creature would have big HD, big slam attacks that spread disease and all the undead immunities but would be great to describe! Especially for a pile of mixed (human and gnoll, for example) bodies.

Killiak 
Faen
(6/23/03 3:29 am)
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lol
Check out the MM2 and there is a monster that is what you describe :D

Cordo Crowfoot
Faen
(6/26/03 6:13 am)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
Here's a good link for this issue:

www.cj.msu.edu/~people/forent.html

The most applicable stuff is this...

Five stages of human decomposition have been recognized:

A. Fresh Stage (Days 1-2)--Commences at momentof death and ends when bloating is first evident. Autolysis,the breakdown of complex protein and carbohydrate molecules into simpler compounds, occurs during this stage, but few gross changes.(Flesh flies, Blowflies, Ants feeding on eggs of adult flies,Wasps predatory on adult flies)

B. Bloated Stage (Day 2-6)--Putrefaction, the principal component of the decomposition process, begins during this stage. Gasses produced by the metabolic activities of theanaerobic bacteria first cause a slight inflation of the abdomen. The carcass may later assume a fully inflated, balloon-like appearance.Adult and larval blowflies in large numbers attracted to fluids seeping from body, normal soil dwelling fauna depart soil becauseof seepage of fluids; some muscid flies and ants which can feed on larvae and retard maggot activity.

C. Decay Stage (Days 5-11)--Decay stage begins when the abdominal wall is broken, allowing gasses to escape and carcass deflates. This process is facilitated by feeding activities of larval flies present on the exposed remains. Adult flies start to leave body, mainly larval mass. Carcass begins to assume ablackened, wet appearance, and most of the flesh will be removedby the maggots. Toward end of this period, carcass will begin to dry and beetles feed on drier tissue. Flies start to pupate. Predatory beetles such as rove beetles and histerids come tofeed on other insects.

D. Postdecay Stage (10-25)--In dry habitats, remains consisted of dry skin, cartilage and bones. Site for dermestid beetles, histerids, fly pupae, immature and adult rove beetles. In wet habitats, a large quantity of wet, viscous material, termed byproducts of decomposition, was found in the soil under the remains. Site for immature and adult moth flies, sphaerocerid and muscidflies, rove beetles.

E. Dry Stage (Days 25+)-- This stage is reached when mainly bones and hair remain. Odor is primarily that of normal soil and litter. Some dermestid beetles, histerids, fly pupae, immature and adult rove beetles, normal soil fauna (mites)start to return. Can last several months to even years.

Offgall Fizziwigg
Faen
(6/26/03 6:19 am)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
:o Eeew, grody.

TheOutlands
Litorian
(6/26/03 6:30 am)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
I feel like I just watched an episode of CSI: Hommlet!

:D

--Michael<br>
http://outlands.tripod.com<br>
homesteading, survival, self-reliance, and a whole lot more

lawithro
Giant
(6/26/03 10:19 pm)
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Re: What about all the bodies?
I took the advice of others on this board and made Tarren into an ultra-fungus druid. His main goal at this point is to continue building his army of fungal-shambling mounds...and to do that, he needs food!!! Most of his interactions betwene Terran and the PC's have been "I'll help you, but you have to promise me that I can keep the corpses of whoever we kill."

Occasionally the party will pay Terran a visit, only to see familiar faces rotting in the fungal webbing that covers the ceiling of his cave.

http://cs.unca.edu/~withrola/toee

deafdungeonmasterRIT
Litorian
(6/26/03 10:29 pm)
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hmm
why not develop Orcwort from MM2?

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