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Blakey
Faen
(6/25/03 12:55 am)
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HTML editting problem (totally OT, sincere apologies)
Hi Guys,

Sorry for the totally off topic post - but you guys are so helpful I figure someone here knows how to help me! :\

I'm trying to build my RttToEE web page (there's a tiny link after all! ;) ) and I'm having problems. I want to set the font on all the pages so that it is controlled by the user's web browser - not forced by me when creating the pages. So if they want to read the pages in Times New Roman, they can. If they want to read them in Ariel they can and so on. However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get MS Word or MS Frontpage to remove the font controls from a document!!!! Arggh!! >:

I'd like to be able to control the fact that certain lines are headers and so on and I'd like to control spacing and bold and italics and what have you but I don't want to fix the font name.

I guess I could open up all my files in Wordpad and search for the font tags by hand and remove them, but I really don't want to go to all that hassle. I basically want a simple command in one of these two editiors to remove all the font name formatting from a document. I can't figure out how to do this.

Please email me off the board if you can help!

pete_blake@hotmail.com

Cheers,
Blakey

I'd rather be defenestrating Chaos Mages.

http://uk.geocities.com/homlett

JRedGiant
Faen
(6/25/03 12:38 pm)
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Back to original topic
I know this has morphed into a debate on tanglefoot bags, action chips and web designs, but I have a thought on the original topic.

It was stated that the players are relatively inexperienced. RttToEE is not a beginner module. Things get increasingly deadly after Big U...not right away but many of the fights are very brutal. Especially if you're a DM who treats the NPC's as thinking creatures when warrented.

I suggest you find a module path that takes them to level 4...maybe even level 5...and then work them into RttToEE. That way they're a little more experienced as players and much more experienced at how to run these particular characters. Plus, when they take down Big U...it'll be all the sweeter for them having tried and failed before.

JRedGiant
Faen
(6/25/03 12:44 pm)
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WHOOPS!
I have no idea how I got onto your thread! Terribly sorry. Other than opening the HTML up and changing it manually I'm not sure how you'd do that, as I don't use either of your programs for my coding needs.

Jesse Lowe
Human
(6/25/03 1:40 pm)
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Re: HTML editting problem (totally OT, sincere apologies)
Quick advice, then:

1. Don't use Word. It sux.

2. It sounds like what you want to use are stylesheets. These allow you to separate the layout (which is what html should be) from the style (which Word et al try to shoehorn into html). Look up "cascading stylesheets" using Google or try the World Wide Web Consortium homepage for more extensive advice. (Sorry, no urls handy).

Note that from a design perspective, you don't want to control the spacing. No matter what you do, it's very likely to come out different on different machines and different browsers. Instead, use tables (if you're making a table), or other tricks. Why do you want to control the spacing, anyway?

CrossNightwalker
Giant
(6/25/03 8:41 pm)
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Re: HTML editting problem (totally OT, sincere apologies)
To echo Jesse's statement, yes, Word and Frontpage do have problems generating clean HTML code. Really, your best bet is to manually remove the font tags using a text editor (Notepad will do, though there are a wide variety of free HTML editing tools out there that will do a pretty nice job if you're not looking for WYSIWYG editing; Textpad is my personal favorite.). If your code is being output by Word, especially newer versions, it's a good bet that you have a bunch of XML code in there, tags like <mso:normal font-size:10pt bidi, etc>. It's a sincere pain to remove those manually. Removing them with search and replace is painful too, though regular-expression searches (again, available in a lot of freeware text editors) will make it more bearable. You're almost better off doing it in Frontpage, and then stripping the simpler HTML tags.

While CSS (stylesheets) is definitely the correct way to do this sort of thing, it can also be daunting to a new web coder, particularly if you've not experimented with coding by hand. It really is easy once you get the hang of it, though, and there are an enormous amount of resources out there to help. The important thing is to start small, and improve as you go.

Not a lot of concrete help, I'm afraid. Tell you what: if you're still in need of assistance, drop me a line at lochspring@nospamthanks.yahoo.com. (Ditch nospamthanks to actually contact me. 8) )

-Cross

Blakey
Faen
(6/26/03 5:56 am)
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Re: HTML editting problem (totally OT, sincere apologies)
Hey guys,

Thanks for the suggestions. I took the simple option of coding the HTML tags by hand - as I'm not doing anything in any way complicated.

I copied the text from each file by doing a select-all when just looking at the text in IE (thus getting a whole page of only text) and then pasted it into a fresh text file and then added HTML tags by hand.

Result: tiny, each to maintain files without all the crap added on my 3rd party editors.

My RttToEE web page is now loads faster loading. If anyone's interested, go check it out - it's in my .sig.

Cheers,
Blakey

I'd rather be defenestrating Chaos Mages.

http://uk.geocities.com/homlett

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