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Faen
(7/7/03 8:29 pm)
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question regarding black fruit
Im not sure whether a character can choose to reject the fruit or not... anyone? What happens if a character actively tries to not take the fruit with them from the darkened room? Or even try to destroy it while still in that room?

Trithereon
Verrik
(7/7/03 10:36 pm)
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Re: question regarding black fruit
There is a certain mad blindness associated with the imprisoned Tharizdun. The god gropes about with insane persistance to find a foothold in the minds of men. By ill luck the god's poisoned words finds those poor souls who are wracked by the tragic loss of mental wholeness. The "lusterous black fruit" is just one example of Tharizdun blind groping for his own salvation.

A paladin, a paragon of law and good, could find himself in that perfectly spherical room of black walls with purple veins. That same paladin would hear the blasphemous low, hollow voice boom its prophesy and benediction.

IMO, any right-minded paladin would drop the fruit immediately and seek means of egress. Three rounds later he'd appear at the base of the piller fruitless. IMC, a paladin that accepts the fruit and eats it would gain its benefit, but likely offend his own god.

Specifically, you ask:

"What happens if a character actively tries to not take the fruit with them from the darkened room. Or even try to destroy it while still in that room?"

Nothing specific is mentioned in the adventure. Thus it falls into the domain of "what ever you want".

I believe nothing happens to the character as the same blindness which hides the nature of the beneficiary of Tharizdun's gift also shield them from any other notice. However, the gift IS keyed to the individual so that anyone eating a fruit not gifted to them suffers a penalty. The gift can be dropped in the black chamber, or squashed (though that'd take some bravado), or taken and then squashed, or taken and then eaten.

I also believe that the fruit would rot at a normal rate but a devious DM might make the resulting mould and/or maggots to be delightfully disturbing in a Tharizdunesque way.

Storm DKB 
Human
(7/8/03 1:50 pm)
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IMC...
I think Trithereon answered terifficly - my response is just the experience IMC.

Once the first character IMC "experimented" with the fruit and subsequently gained the extra ability score (it was hard to keep the bonus from the other PCs) all of the party jumped on the proverbial band-wagon. So, my advise is to excuse the players out of the room while each character enters the obelisk individually. I thought it was a tricky meta-gaming situation that I screwed up :( Don't make my mistake.

I don't think there are any penalties associated with not partaking of the fruit. A PC simply misses out on the ability score boost. Perhaps a PC's forebearance in this matter may have implications (in a positive way) later on...

lightnng
Faen
(7/8/03 2:03 pm)
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Re: IMC...
Thank you both for the replies. Thritereon's answer is fantastic, I agree.

The way it happened in our campaign is that the two characters who were most likely to NOT want the fruit (cleric and very faithful ranger) dumped it, and a third one (the fighter) just dumped it cause he tends to follow along. Three others - appropriately, the wizard, sorcerer, and rogue - kept it.

But none of them has tried it yet - they decided to take the fruit to Hommlet to Y'Dey (who will be able to tell them nothing of course).

I have decided to deal with it like this: the players who didnt take the fruit will lose out on the ability gain, but will each gain a special "faith based" XP award. The other three will gain the ability score. BUT I am not giving out the XP until the "eating" situation is resolved (so the award itself doesnt mislead them).

Roland the red
Faen
(7/8/03 3:33 pm)
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The Black Fruit
Search for the thread "The Black Fruit" (page 2 or 3 now I think) where I describe it in a particularly nasty way...

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