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WindsorDM
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(7/8/03 1:18 am)
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How much for that Dragon in the Window?
Are there prices listed anywhere for how much Big U's corpse would be worth? My group hauled him back to Hommlet. If it is worth it they may haul it to Verbobonc. (If the price is better there.)


Killiak 
Faen
(7/8/03 4:04 am)
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well
I have NO clue, but there is a list in the Dragon entry that shows what can be made out of dragon, depending on size.
So, let's say we can make a couple of dragonhide scale mails. I don't have my books here, but say the normal costs for a MW scalemail is about 400 gp. I would pay them 500 per armor that can be made out of it, plus some cash for the dragon's head (Nobles love stuffed creatures of might). The meat might be sold for about 1K.
So in total = 500 per armor/item + 500 for Head + 500 per 1000 (or so) pounds of meat.

Don't give them too much. I'd max it out at about 1 - 1.5K per person

Cordo Crowfoot
Litorian
(7/8/03 5:05 am)
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Re: well
I would say 1-1.5k per person is high. Basically the magical items on the corpses in the courtyard area are the player's monetary reward for killing Utreshimon. So unless your players are behind the curve of wealth and you specifically need to address that I don't think they should make much for the dragon's corpse. 1-200 gp for the effort maybe.

If you do decide to go higher be careful you don't paint yourself into a corner to pay outlandish prices for all dragon corpses in the future. Maybe a well known taxidermist is passing through town, or a wizard who REALLY needs a dragon's heart and tounge for whatever reason.

"They were immediately and absolutely recognizable as adventurers. They were hardy and dangerous, lawless, stripped of allegiance or morality, living off their wits, stealing and killing, hiring themselves out to whoever and whatever came... They were scum who died violent deaths, hanging on to a certain cachet among the impressionable through their undeniable bravery and their occasionally impressive exploits" China Mieville, Perdido Street Station

Infiniti2000
Verrik
(7/8/03 6:42 am)
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ezSupporter
Another Thread
TheOutlands asked this question in a D&D Miscellaneous thread uses for a dead dragon? and got some good responses.

TheOutlands
Litorian
(7/8/03 7:02 am)
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Re: Another Thread
hahahaha!
I was dropping into this thread in order to refer to the "uses" thread and the *great* responses over there... Thanks I-2k!

--Michael<br>
http://outlands.tripod.com<br>
homesteading, survival, self-reliance, and a whole lot more

mirrorsh
Faen
(7/8/03 7:53 am)
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Re: Another Thread
I basically looked at Big U's EL, and cross-referenced with the "average GP treasure per encounter." It came up something like 1600 gp for an EL 5 encouner or something like that. So I figured, if they could find a buyer and deliver a fresh, unspoiled dragon corpse before it started to decompose or "lose its magical potency" they could get 1600gp for it.

Or they could hire someone to "preserve the corpse" (cost = 10-20% of 1600) but then it would only sell for half (800 gp). OTOH the corpse would last forever, they could put it in little jars and sell it over the course of weeks/months/years if need be, and they could have a few "power components" on hand when they all got to 9th level and start making magic items on their own.

Offgall Fizziwigg
Faen
(7/8/03 8:19 am)
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Re: Another Thread
See, the problem is that certain parts of dragons are worth lots of money individually. You can use the scales for armor and bones for weapons. The clincher is the dragon bile, one of the deadlier poisons. It's very expensive!!! If you can dissect these parts carefully, I would say you could get quite a bit of cash for them.

genlang
Faen
(7/8/03 1:18 pm)
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Re: Selling dragons?
Here's how I got around an unwelcome wealth boost:

My group's mentor, Sarkyn, teleported himself and the corpse back to the capital (which they're loosely based out of) and traded it to the Temple of Mystra (Magic) for goodwill.

What this means is that when they get around to having enough wealth to think of commissioning items, I have a reason for artisans connected with the Temple work on thier order next, jumping to the head of the queue more often than not. It facilitates funner play for my players, without breaking the world, or making them wealthier than I wanted at low levels.

Infiniti2000
Verrik
(7/9/03 6:09 am)
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ezSupporter
Re: Another Thread
Offgall, nothing says that dragon bile is good as is. Perhaps the poison itself stems from actual dragon bile, but it requires expensive processing to turn it into the actual poison. Also, it should certainly take a very skilled person to extract it, so that, unless the PC's can do it, a large portion of the money must go to pay the expert. Make it a skill check that, say, only an 10th level expert could reasonably do, otherwise the substance is ruined.

Trithereon
Verrik
(7/9/03 8:26 am)
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Dragon Bile
And if it doesn't take any processing to produce the poison it is listed as a contact poison ... which makes removing the bile duct, or "squeezing" bile from an exposed bile duct into a container a risky maneuver for the weak! (DC 26, Str 3d6/0).

But I do like the idea that it has to be processed by someone trained in alchemy (or an assassin) before it is potent. That makes it's sale value much lower then the listed 1500, maybe even as much as 1/10 of the finished products value, as the bile could be from any creature that has the dragon subtype (like wyvern) which maybe "easier" to obtain.

Just thinking.

msherman
Faen
(7/9/03 7:05 pm)
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Re: Taxidermy
IMC, the Taxidermists who carve up the dragon hide into the magic shields, armor, gloves and boots that the party gets out of the hide do so in exchange for the remaining body parts. If the party wants to put the skill points into various Craft skills, and take the time to do the work themselves, they can get the extra cash for the various bits and pieces, but they haven't suggested it yet.

Mind you, I am more generous than the MM suggests with the hide; I give an extra 2^size leather items (gloves/boots/hat) cut from the scraps, on top of the armor/shield the MM says I should give, and all items made from dragon skin/scale can be enchanted with something appropriate to the dragon's colour for half the usual price. When my party carved up Utreshimon, they got a half price Shield +1 (which can be upgraded to Lightning Resistance for half price, too), Boots of Sprining and Striding, and a Hat of Disguise.

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