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ZansForCans 
Oathstalker
(3/22/04 2:38 pm)
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Re: Eeridik's will save
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The MM Lycanthrope template says that the base saves should use the base animal for the animal hit dice. According to the Animals chapter in the MM (p278) , rats have poor will saves.


Unfortunately the designers introduced confusion here by not calling the Wererat a "Dire Wererat" (like the Hill Giant Dire Wereboar). The base animal for the wererat is in fact a dire rat, which has all good saves (as I think all the dires do). Notice the Disease SA is a dire rat trait as well.

On a slightly related note, there may still be a small error in the MM/SRD wererat entry depending on your interpretation of where the +8 Climb "racial" bonus comes from. Here's the list of factoids that I can't seem to resolve in my head:

* The general lycnathrope entry says all forms get racial bonuses unless they are circumstantial.

* In the wererat Skills description it implies that all forms get the +8 racial Swim modifier, but only the hybrid and dire rat forms get the +8 Climb "racial" bonuses.

* But, only the dire rat form has a Climb speed.

* On top of what the description says though, the hybrid doesn't even look to have the racial bonus in the Skills listing.

So, is the racial Climb bonus granted through a Climb speed circumstantial? It sort of looks like that's what they intend, but the hybrid stats and the description don't jive.


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msherman
Briar Beast
(3/22/04 2:46 pm)
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Re: Eeridik's will save
Ahh... he's a were-dire-rat! Thanks, that makes a lot more sense.

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