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Faen
(9/10/03 6:28 am)
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Who knows about Tharizdun?
Hi,

I've been playing for about 6 months now and my PCs have just about finished the Moathouse (they have yet to explore Nulb or TEE) [ i know, we're a bit slow, but we can't play often ;) ]. So far its been great. They have NO clue whats going on but they suspect that something bigger is happening here. In any case, my question is who knows they are working for Tharizdun and who doesn't.

I'll throw out some names and maybe some of you in the hivemind can add comments:

Hommlet:
Y'dey: has suspicions??
Rufus, Burne: No.
Elmo: No.

Everyone at Moathouse (ie: Geynor, Gren, etc): No. They think they worship only the EEE.

Dunrat: No. Same as above.

Lareth: Yes (clearly explained in text).

EVERYONE in Inner Fane: Yes; or are there exceptions like Thrommel, Naquent, Satu? Do any of these KNOW they are working for Tharizdun?

CRM: Everyone here thinks they are working for the EEE and NOT Tharizdun.

If i've missed anyone, please comment.

If certain people aren't aware of the fact that Tharizdun is behind it all, who do they think they are working of? EEE? Iuz? Zuggtmoy?

Thanks

(my apologies if i've butchered the names of any gods or NPCs ;) )



Infiniti2000
Verrik
(9/10/03 6:49 am)
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ezSupporter
Re: Who knows about Tharizdun?
"Everyone at Moathouse (ie: Geynor, Gren, etc): No. They think they worship only the EEE."
Ysslansh, the trog cleric worships Tharizdun based on the fact that his holy symbol is an obex. Also, Dunrat is from the Outer Fane, so he should have knowledge of anyone else in the Outer Fane, though he worships EEE.

"EVERYONE in Inner Fane: Yes; or are there exceptions like Thrommel, Naquent, Satu? Do any of these KNOW they are working for Tharizdun?"

Thrommel, Naquent, and Satau (etc.) are in the Outer Fane. And, for the most part, they do not know of Tharizdun's influence, although they know Tharizdun exists and some worship him. Everyone in the Inner Fane, however, does know about Tharizdun.

"my apologies if i've butchered the names of any gods or NPCs"
Don't apologize to us, apologize to the NPCs :b

arcane12
Faen
(9/10/03 12:32 pm)
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Re: Who knows about Tharizdun?
Also it is possible for the smarter of the EEE clerics to know they are really working for the big T (eg. Dunrat). The may still worship the EEE knowing that really it's the big T they are worshiping, or just do it for the Domain access (oo oo I don't want to give up my air domain fly spell yet, I'll just keep on here till I'm promoted to the outer fane)

Cordo Crowfoot
Litorian
(9/11/03 7:29 am)
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Re: the shadow knows
Geynor Ton's diary seems to definitely indicate he knows about T.

Hedrack mentions "the Dark Master" to Tessimon in his letter like she would know who it is.

I don't have the module with me but I believe there is something in the text that indicated the two wizards in the fire complex likely know as well.

Personally, I think it is much more interesting if this isn't discovered by the players until the time they reach the fanes. I've purposely scaled back who knows in my own campaign, and the hints that have been doled out, just so it feels like a more significant revelation.

There are some other threads about this, most likely recent enough to have been captured on Zans' page 21 or even still up on the boards. You might want to do some searching.

JoeSchmoe
Faen
(9/11/03 7:53 am)
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I've had the same situations come up myself, wondering who in the cult knows they actually serve a world-ending deity while worshipping a slightly less evil deity.

Not being a big role-player myself and with a group of players who mostly like to kill, maim and destroy, I haven't gone to any great lengths to stress the importance of defeating the entire cult until recently. I made a page on the campaign website with the collected info the group has gotten (they typically get a handout like the diary excerpt, read it then put it away and forget about it) specifically to drive home the point the group is trying to free a "dark master" and look for a "champion", etc.

How have other DMs revealed to their players exactly who it is the cult is trying to free, and how did these other DMs let the players know what would happen if the cult succeeds? I'm assuming the group is supposed to find out in the Fanes somewhere but I haven't read too much about the Outer Fane and very little of the Inner Fane.

Cordo Crowfoot
Litorian
(9/11/03 7:57 am)
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another thread
Here is the old thread I was talking about, on page 21:
zans.clanplaid.net/page21/26/2608.html

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