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JDragonatWork
Memunite
(10/16/03 9:11 am)
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What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys?
Well the subject covers my question pretty well, so what do you all think?

What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys?

Thanks

JDragon

Infiniti2000
Cherub
(10/16/03 9:30 am)
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Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
Lesser Key
- opens locked doors tied to that particular element (purposefully vague)
- can be combined to form a Greater Key

Note that you cannot identify a Greater Key due to the fact that it only remains a Greater Key for 15 minutes.

arcane12
Memunite
(10/16/03 11:13 am)
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Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
I would give more information than that. I think of each form of the keys as an extention of the lesser keys - kinda of like a rod of lordly might - you don't have to identify it (under 3.5) to figure out what it does in each aspect.

I plan on still keeping the answers vague, but giving basically all that can be done with a lesser key:

. Can bypass lesser defenses and open lesser locked doors tied to x element.
. Can be combined (pressed together) with another lesser key to make a greater key for 15 minutes.
. When in greater key form can bypass greater defenses and open greater locked doors tied to x element.
. When in greater key form can be combined (pressed together) to permanently make a master key.
. When in master key for can bypass all defenses and open any door tied to any form of key.

As a note: is there any doors that lesser keys are used on? At the moment the only use I have seen for lesser keys is to make a greater key.

msherman
Kalkydrite
(10/17/03 7:27 am)
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Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
IMC, I went with the partial identification for the lesser keys, and the party ended up paying for an Analyze Dweomer on a greater key in Verbobonc to figure out what it did (since you can't identify it in the 15 minutes it exists). I gave them "can be combined with another greater key to form a master key" as part of that identification, and then they scrambled to find the other lesser keys in their portable hole, form another greater key, and combine it to make a master key before the Analyze Dweomer expired.

It was pretty funny when they figured out the blessing part of the greater key's function, and finally realized that the party's Air Genasi rogue had accidentally blessed himself on the Earth Altar...

BTW, IMC I decided that the master key breaks apart in 15 minutes, just like the greater keys; I figure it doesn't make much sense for it to be permanent, otherwise there wouldn't be any lesser keys left after 85 years, they'd have long since all be combined into master keys what with all the temple-vs-temple fighting. A master key which lets a temple use the bridge nearest to themselves, instead of crossing the whole CRM to get to their aligned bridge, is just too valuable.

Edited by: msherman at: 10/17/03 7:29 am
JDragonatWork
Memunite
(10/17/03 9:05 am)
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Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
Thanks for the info guys.

IT was very helpful last night, as my party identified the 2 air keys they had just aquired.

JDragon

Infiniti2000
Cherub
(10/17/03 10:18 am)
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ezSupporter
Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
I like the idea, msherman, about the Master Key also splitting apart. I think 15 minutes is too short, however. I think an hour or maybe a day would work, though. Do you think the Master Key gives you some kind of protection in the Courtyard just outside the Inner Fane?

arcane12
Memunite
(10/19/03 5:59 pm)
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Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
Of course Heddrack and the Doomdreamers could just collect up any master keys once they were made and hand out some more lesser keys - otherwise in 85 years of fighting you think you would be able to find more than just lesser keys of X element in X temple...
I think the Doomdeamers would be able to make lesser keys whenever they want, infact there really should be some additions to the outer/inner fanes detailing who makes them, where they are (stock pile of extra lesser keys, and who has master keys) and perhaps some details of a 'greater blessing'. (maybe even related to existing rituals - the holy font, the deck of many things, etc).

msherman
Kalkydrite
(10/20/03 6:16 am)
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Re: What will Identify (3.5) reveal about the Elemental Keys
Off topic, IMC drawing a card from the deck of many things is the ritual required before taking your first level of Doomdreamer.

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